I am nearly ill over the decision to be made this November. I am glad that no one but me will know how I vote. And God – and may He forgive me!
So Ann, do you think it’s wrong to vote for Mitt Romney? I’m just noticing you asking God to forgive you for how you vote. Is that not being presumptuous regarding God’s grace?
Do we really believe that God will bless this country if we elect a polytheist to the highest office? This was one of the main sins the children of Israel continually embraced that caused their down fall.
Good Morning Ann,
Please don’t make yourself ill.
It is what it is: Not a vote for the pastor of your church, not a vote for who will serve as elders in your church or deacons.
It is a vote for an office that is a government office not a church office.
Ask yourself, what are the qualifications for the job of President of the USA, and ask yourself which candidate do you feel honestly is best qualified to meet the demands and requirements of the job.
We live in a country where there are checks and balances, a Senate, a Congress, a Supreme Court, a Constitution, differing types of electronic and print media as well.
You are not voting to give one the power to vote as a dictator.
Yes, you [we all] are responsible for how we vote, but lets not make ourselves ill, convincing ourselves of something that is not reality.
And lastly, if you feel you are going to need forgiveness for how you vote, then why are you permitting others to be Lord of your conscience? Free in Christ, to vote for whom I feel is best qualified and I will lose no sleep over it. Freedom in Christ gives us peace that the world of politics cannot provide.
Take a look at this video Ivan: http://youtu.be/FLjTa1bbAeI?t=1m12s
Very humanistic Ivan. Heavy on the constitution and pragmatism. Weak on the Bible.
So Ivan, if there were a conservative running for the office and it was known that he was a practicing high priest in the church of Satan, would you still give the same admonishment? Just curious.
Double post, sorry.
I truely believe in the sound doctrine found in the bible and am strongly opposed to these mormons and their cults because they don’t believe the word of God. Their teaching are corrupt and heading to nowhere.
Pastor Francis Matayo
God’s Providence Church Kibera
Pastor Matayo, please keep the church in America in your prayers. It would seem the only thing we are dogmatic about these days is compromise.
If I were eligible to vote I would vote for Ron Paul because he is the nearest to a Biblical worldview. I only wish we had someone like Ron Paul in the uk.
“Was the kingdom that the Prophets talked about, that should be set up in the latter times, going to be a Church? Yes. And a State? Yes, it was going to be both Church and State, to rule both temporal and spiritually.” LDS “Prophet” John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 24, 1857.
“We used to have a difference between Church and State, but it is all one now. Thank God, we have no more temporal and spiritual! We have got Church and State together….” LDS “Prophet” John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 5, p. 266, 1857.
Note: In 1857, when Taylor made these statements, Mormonism had already established the basis for it’s “Zion” in Utah. The LDS church controlled every aspect of Utah’s government, as well as the lives of its citizens.
“And the day shall come when the nations of the earth shall tremble because of her [Zion], and shall fear because of her terrible ones.” LDS Book of Covenants, p. 156, as quoted in Orson Pratt’s, The Seer, pp. 5 – 6, 1853.
“In Zion [allegedly the Mormon homeland] a law will be given by the Great Law Giver, which will be for the government of all nations: and all nations will have to submit to that law, or be destroyed from the earth…. The law for the government of all nations will go forth from Zion the same as the laws for the government of the United States now go forth from Washington. Zion will be the seat of government, and her officers will be far more respected, and have far more influence, than those of any government upon the earth; all nations will yield the most perfect obedience to their commands and counsels. …[A] word from them will control all the inhabitants of the earth as one man.” LDS “Apostle” Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 266.
“Let us now notice our political position in the world. What are we going to do? We are going to possess the earth. Why? Because it belongs to Jesus Christ, and he belongs to us, and we to him; we are all one, and will take the kingdom and possess it under the whole heavens, and reign over it for ever and ever. Now, ye kings and emperors, help yourselves, if you can. This is the truth, and it may as well be told at this time as at any other.
`There’s a good time coming, Saints,
A good time coming,
There’s a good time coming, Saints,
Wait a little longer.’”
LDS “Prophet” John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, p. 230, 1853.
Louis, how can you believe all that extra-biblical stuff and still claim that the Bible is part of the Mormon’s holy books? Did you not read the whole story here – do you not read the Bible? How can you depend on (with your eternal life) books that are recent (historically) books and not read and depend on God’s Word which is proven over the many centuries that it has survived inspite of many men trying to destroy it. May God open your eyes and ears to hear the TRUTH of Scripture – GOD’S WORD – not some mormon prophet whose words contradict God’s Word!
There is always the option of NOT voting. An individual must follow the dictate of his conscience. Ideally, that conscience is under the Lordship of Christ.
How can anyone vote for someone who believes in drinking the blood of babies?
I guess I am an old timer. I grew up with Walter Martin’s ministry and we used to fight against the lies of Satan as expressed though the cults, one of his instruments of destruction. NOW, the leaders of the church embrace a leader of the Mormon cult to lead the free world into the bondage of damnation. Quite a compromise.f
I detest our current President, and would love to see him replaced, but not by a cult leader who could cause more spiritual and eternal damage than the person we have now. Eight years of giving validity and power to Satan through the Mormon cult. It is unthinkable.
Amen and amen!
and another AMEN! Not by my hand will I elevate this heresy! (and I am a politically active Republican!!!)
We must be “dove gentle” and serpent wise”. Our choice is between two Pagans. One is
laying a path for certain destruction of Christian freedom, national sovereignty, and assures
Third World economy,rampant homosexuality, murder of the unborn and other population
control measures… I am seeking God for His wisdom. I know that God uses many kinds
of people to accomplish His will. I am being led toward voting for the Pagan who vows to
uphold the Constitution, protect National sovereignty, advocate for the unborn, the aged,
and other helpless, while pushing against the welfare state to promote individual respon-
sibility for the able-bodied. It will be the responsibility of the Church to hold him to it if
elected. I will leave the result to God Almighty who holds the heart of the king in His
Hand.and we must do our part to preserve our Christian foundation and the freedom
it provides. To stay home or otherwise avoid making the hard choice will assure a
future of slavery under the UN one-world government, probably Sharia law, and the
destruction of Isreal and America as we have known it. I am voting for an administrator,
not a Pastor even though I would much prefer a Godly Christian one. Our God can
do much even with a Pagan unbeliever….and we need time to turn this ship around.
The choice has never been clearer. God bless and maranatha.
In other words the one that will make life “easiest” for Christians. On what verse is this based on?
There’s actually still another candidate in the running, and picking up huge chunks of delegates, who happens to be, by all accounts, a committed, biblical Christian. Just to make sure you know that. I couldn’t tell from your post.
Consider Galatians 1:8 and ask yourself “what would Paul do”! To elevate a leader committed to the bizarre heresy of Mormonism is to violate our higher call to protect and defend the Gospel. I have had a personal encounter with Romney on the outrageous doctrinal black racism in the Mormon Church and I can tell you,no Christian could knowingly support that! He may win, but let it NOT BE by the hands of the People of God!
Did you see what Romney did in his Wisconsin Town Hall meeting the day before the primary to a voter trying to ask the question about the Mormon DOCTRINE on the :curse: of black skin??? Romney had his staff first turn off then take away the man;s mike as he tried to ask the question!!!
FYI This is very damning. You see the Romney people take the guy’s mike away right in public!!!
THIS DOCUMENT IS A GREAT IDEA. TO BE FAIR, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A DOCUMENT OF EQUAL SIZE AND EQUAL POINTS ABOUT THE ANTI-CHRISTIAN AND UNBIBLICAL VIEWPOINTS OF OBAMA? He has done many things against God, the Bible, and Christianity. He is against public prayer that closes in Jesus’ Name. He is unquestionably pro-gay. He is pro-abortion. He took a stand against Catholic and Protestant Church-owned hospitals, ministries, and organizations by forcing his ObamaCare upon the employees even if they are against his abortion and contraception measures. These are just a few things. There are many others and there are websites that have listed many of his unbiblical ideas. We must stand up for Jesus against all unbiblical candidates.
Zion Baptist Church
I think the impetus for this statement is the fact that so many confessing Evangelicals, including leaders, are being seduced into acting like Romney’s cultism is no big deal. It’s not Romney that this statement is about, so much as it is the spinelessness of that sort of Christian. In 2008, I think the same sorts of protests were made by those of us who disagreed with voting for a socialist/marxist just because of his skin color. (Maybe not as official as this one…)
Everyone Knows that the Mormon Jesus has red eyes, purple teeth a naked body with a tail and bad breath that sparks fires.
They even hold up pictures of that Jesus in their worship service!
And I have seen them take communion wafers and poke them with pins to make the wafer bleed.
So how can we elect devil worshippers?
Pastor – New Hope Christian Church
I have no idea what to make of this comment. If it is sarcasm, it is weak.
Amen my friend!
The following article was posted today in the Denver Post:
“WASHINGTON—Mitt Romney apologized Thursday for “stupid” high school pranks that may have gone too far and moved quickly to stamp out any notion that he bullied schoolmates because they were gay. His swift response reflected the Republican presidential candidate’s recognition that his record on gay rights is under heightened scrutiny following President Barack Obama’s embrace of gay marriage.
One day after gay rights moved to the center of the presidential race with Obama’s announcement on same-sex marriage, a Washington Post report about Romney’s high school escapades nearly 50 years ago added a personal dimension to Democrats’ claim that he’s out of step on the sensitive topic.
The newspaper reported that in one case, Romney and several schoolmates held down classmate John Lauber and cut off his bleached blond hair after seeking him out in his dorm room at their boarding school in the wealthy Detroit suburb of Bloomfield Hills, Mich. The Post said Lauber was “perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality” and that he screamed for help as Romney held him down. The paper recounted another incident in which Romney shouted “atta girl” to a different student at the all-boys’ school who, years later, came out as gay.
“I participated in a lot of hijinks and pranks during high school and some may have gone too far. And for that I apologize,” Romney told Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade during a hastily arranged radio interview. Romney said he didn’t remember the Lauber incident from long ago, but didn’t dispute that it happened. He stressed that he didn’t know either student was gay.
The Republican presidential candidate had begun the day by treading softly on Obama’s historic embrace of same-sex marriage, which seems likely to fire up liberal and conservative activists alike. He quietly restated his opposition to legalizing such marriages, but his campaign turned its full attention to energy, the economy and other issues.
Then the boarding school story was posted online and Romney moved quickly to counter any suggestion he had targeted students because they were gay.
“That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s, so that was not the case,” he said, adding that the students involved “didn’t come out of the closet until years later.”
According to the Post account, Romney was upset about how Lauber wore his bleach-blond hair hanging into his eyes.
“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” Romney told Matthew Friedemann, a close Romney friend and one of five classmates who recalled the incident for The Post. A few days later, Romney led a group of boys out of his dorm room at Cranbrook School and into Lauber’s, where the group tackled him and held him down. Romney cut his hair with scissors as a teary-eyed Lauber screamed for help.
“If there was anything I said that was offensive to someone, I certainly am sorry about that,” he said, adding that “there was no harm intended.” Romney’s campaign has previously highlighted the candidate’s reputation as a high school prankster in an attempt to humanize him.
In a second interview Thursday, Romney laid out what he said was his long-held position on gay rights: While opposed to gay marriage, he said states should be allowed to grant various domestic partnership rights to same-sex couples, including the right to adopt children.
“States could have their own decisions with regards to the domestic partnership rights,” Romney told Fox News. “But my preference would be to have a national standard for marriage, and that marriage would be defined as being between a man and a woman.”
He said he would go as far as supporting gay couples who want to adopt children, saying: “If two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship and even want to adopt a child—in my state, individuals of the same sex are able to adopt children—in my view, that’s something which people have the right to do.”
The GOP candidate defended some gay rights when he ran for governor of Massachusetts but was a leading voice against gay marriage when courts made it legal in the state.
“We would have never gotten as far as we did without Gov. Romney’s very strong support,” said Kris Mineau, the president of the Massachusetts Family Institute, the group that spearheaded the fight for the state constitutional amendment.
Still, when Romney ran for Senate in 1994, he argued that he would be a better advocate for gay rights’ issues than Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy because he would make gay issues mainstream. “I think the gay community needs more support from the Republican Party and I would be a voice in the Republican Party to foster anti-discrimination efforts,” he said in a 1994 interview.
Obama on Wednesday became the first president in history to support gay marriage, and Romney was careful to use empathic language as he responded to that decision.
“This is a very tender and sensitive topic as are many social issues, but I have the same views I’ve had since running for office,” Romney said, a rhetorical contrast with some of his sharper responses on issues like immigration.
Romney’s advisers signaled they planned to campaign on the issue in November’s election, but acknowledged they would have to tread carefully. “I think it’s important to be respectful in how we talk about our differences, but the fact is that’s a significant difference in November,” Ed Gillespie, a senior Romney adviser, said Thursday on MSNBC.”
Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing this!!! I have been horrified as prominent Chrisitan leaders, including some from my denomination, have not only supported Romney but also gone out of their way to legitimize Mormonism in order to make Romney more palatable to the religious right. The spiritual battle of differentiating the Gospel from Mormonism is more important than any political battle we think Romney could help us win.
Christian leaders tell me Romney’s Mormonism shouldn’t be a factor in the election and therefore I should vote for him. On the other hand, they say because I am a Christian I should vote Republican. Am I taking crazy pills or are they speaking out of both sides of there mouths?
Although I have not been a Mormon during my own life, my family has been Mormon since 1842 with a deep history of work with the LDS church from its early years. These ties through my dad and grandparents have caused me to be very aware and very active in speaking out about Mr Romney’s faith and position in the LDS church. I am very happy this site and these statements are being made. The efforts of the press in America and of many to legitimize Mormons as another Christian faith are more than troubling.
Thanks my friend for you stand for truth and the gospel!
Anyone who loves and reads the Bible knows that Mormonism is a cult. The problem these days is that very few read the Bible and therefore the cults grow.
The United Brethren Community Fellowship has declared Forty Days of Prayer and Fasting for the leaders of our country and for the whole estate of Christ’s church as Christians now find themselves facing the toughest choices which they have ever faced in their lifetimes as voting citizens of the United State of America. The United Brethren Community Fellowship has stepped up their prayers for and donations to the Utah Lighthouse Ministry and other groups with a proven record for sharing the Gospel message with those who have been deceived by the false gospel messages being promoted by the LDS Church, and other false gospel messages. I Samuel 16:1-13, Matthew 23, Luke 11, Luke 12:37-48, Acts 1:12-26, Acts 2, Acts 4:1-31, Acts 8:26-40, Acts 10, Acts 15, Acts 16, Galatians 1-6, Ephesians 1-6, II Thessalonians 3, Philemon 1, Jude 1.
Please join us as we pray: “Heavenly Father, we lift up our prayers today for all those who are afflicted or troubled in any way. Send the light of Your Gospel to shine upon all nations. Send heavenly guidance from your Holy Word to help as many as have received the Gospel to live in such a way that their lives will bring honor to the Gospel. Be gracious to all who gather together to honor Jesus as Lord and Savior today. Be in our midst and enable every member to discover the vocation and ministry which is Your plan for our lives. Send the light of Your Word to guide us all in faithful service. Bless all who have been placed in positions of authority. Send heavenly guidance to rule the hearts and strengthen the minds of all leaders. Bless the hearts of all leaders with heavenly benevolence and teach them the best way to deal with wickedness and vice. Send heavenly wisdom to guide and direct all who work to protect the weak and oppressed. Send heavenly blessings to reward all who seek to walk in paths of righteousness, goodness, virtue and mercy for the Lord’s sake. Send down blessings, temporal and spiritual, upon all our relations, friends, and neighbors. Reward all who have done good. And abundantly pardon all those who have experienced a sincere repentance and have called upon the name of Your dear son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, for forgiveness and salvation. Tenderly guide and direct all of those who are just beginning to live a new life in fellowship with Christ Jesus. Be merciful to all who are in any trouble, whether it is temporal or spiritual. Send faithful ministers to assist all those who are in any kind of need — for the sake of Your dear Son, our Savior, Jesus Christ, who went about doing good. Wherever there are those who are sincerely and earnestly seeking to know the Lord and to discover the mercy, grace and salvation which will set them free, provide them with divine inspiration, providential guidance and benevolent direction so that they may come to know that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God and that Jesus provides the only pathway to the Heavenly Father’s throne of grace. Now we receive the Holy Spirit to guide, direct, teach, comfort and intercede for us, as the Lord Jesus promised during His ministry on earth. — Amen — In the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit — Amen — In the Name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, the Son of God — Amen!”
“Heavenly Father, we thank You for Your promise to guide the meek in judgment and to send Your Word to light the pathways for all those who trust in Your name. Grant to us, in the midst of all of our doubts and uncertainties, the grace to ask what You would have us to do, so that the Spirit of Wisdom may save us from all false choices. We have faith that in Your light, we will see light. And in Your straight path, we will not stumble. Heavenly Father, we thank You and praise You because, in Your infinite wisdom, You have set the solitary in families. Now we ask You to watch over all the homes where Your name is honored. Bless all those families who have trusted in Your holy name and shed abroad in those homes the benefits of genuine unity, generous affection and abiding love. Fill Your children with the spirit of faith, virtue, knowledge, temperance, kindness and patience – and bless them all with tender hearts. Knit together in constant affection all those who, in holy wedlock, have been made one flesh. Turn the hearts of the fathers to the children. And turn the hearts of the children to the fathers. Enkindle fervent charity in the hearts of all those who have faith in Your name and bring them together with affection and brotherly love. Heavenly Father, we thank You for the blessings and joy which come with the care of children. Give all parents the light and strength to so train their children in the way that they should go, that when they are old, the children will NOT depart from following the Lord. Bless with heavenly guidance all parents who are working to teach their children to love whatever things are pure, lovely and of good report, following the example of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. We ask You to be present now wherever two or three are gathered together to honor Jesus as our Lord and Savior. Now we receive the Holy Spirit to guide, direct, teach, comfort and intercede for us, as the Lord Jesus promised during His ministry on earth. — Amen — In the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit — Amen — In the Name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, the Son of God — Amen!”
Heavenly Father, help us always to remember that You have given us the most important task in all the world – the task of establishing homes which have been built on a strong foundation of love for the Savior. Bless parents with the ability to become an example and a friend to their children. Bless all mothers and fathers with true generosity of spirit and a clear vision of the partnership which they share in listening together for the still, small voice of the Lord to guide and direct their family. Keep us ever mindful of the lessons which Jesus taught about the importance of children in the kingdom of heaven. Bless parents with the ability to make their homes such a haven of peace and good will that the family will always be eager to come back to that home. Bless children with the ability to grow in grace and in the knowledge of the Lord so that they will one day be prepared to establish their own homes and fill those homes with happy childhood memories and heavenly assurances of love and security. Now we receive the Holy Spirit to guide, direct, teach, comfort and intercede for us, as the Lord Jesus promised during His ministry on earth. – Amen – In the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit – Amen – In the Name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, the Son of God – Amen!
I signed. As a nation, we cannot afford the consequences of having what is false be given even implied legitimacy.
I’ve had the opportunity to vote for some 9 presidents. Except for Kennedy being Catholic not much was said about their religion. Believe most confessed to be Christian. Yet since 1960 where are we on moral issues and Christian truths? Now even within Christendom we have abortion upon demand, approval and promotion of homosexual relationships including marriage, religious leaders denial of inerrancy of scripture, belief in evolution, denial of Adam and Eve as real persons making Jesus unnecessary and even a liar, high divorce rate, high unwed mother birth rate, acceptance of sin without repentance, etc. Where are we told in scripture that a president must be a Christian for is it not just a temporal office? Have we been led well by Christian presidents? Our constitution requires separation of church and state thus a president must govern under the state rather than church and as citizens we live under the state. However, Jesus alone is Lord and has control over all things (Eph 1:20-23) and Rom 13:1-7 tells us our relationship to government. I have faith that our Lord will take care of the temporal things under His kingdom of power (all creation) in accordance to His will. What He requires of us within His kingdom of grace (only true believers) is to live as examples and proclaim repentance and the Gospel so that His kingdom of grace and thus kingdom of glory (heaven) will be increased. But Christendom internally must start following Christ rather than
compromising with the world if we expect His blessing and fruit from our
I believe that Mormonism is a theological cult and appreciate the educational aspect of this document, however, cannot sign it due to its conclusion that failure to heed call will cause “eternal consequences on the Church” as well as the inclusion of a questionable racial overture. I have problems believing that a Mormon president would cause more spiritual or eternal damage than a worldly Christian president. I agree “don’t compromise true Christian doctrine” but voting for a candidate that supports conservative morals and socio/political principles that align with some areas of Biblical Christianity might serve our Lord well within His kingdom of power and protect us believers as well as unbelievers til we can witness to them so they might enter His kingdom of grace then glory.
Voting for a Mormon for temporal office (state) is quite different that allowing inclusion of Mormonism within the body of Christ (church). With this in mind I can vote for Romney with a clear conscience and faith in the sovereignty of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Regardless let’s pray for Romney and his family’s conversion to true Christianity. And let us not forget this situation does give us a great opportunity to present the true Gospel. Vote or not vote as your conscience dictates but I for one do not believe one commits sin nor supports Mormonism if they vote for Romney.
Joe writes, “But Christendom internally must start following Christ rather than compromising with the world…” But just previously he wrote, “Our constitution requires separation of church and state thus a
president must govern under the state rather than church and as citizens
we live under the state.” He then concludes, “I can vote for Romney with a clear conscience and faith in the sovereignty of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.” Talk about compromise!!!
Gracetofaith: Sorry but I need help in understanding your point. Can you expound a little more on regarding perceived compromise? Thanks
I must commit this matter to much prayer. Barack Obama was brought up as a Muslim. His pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said he did not know whether he converted from Islam (Obama has never said he is a born again Christian). The president’s views on abortion, partial birth abortion and the fact he lobbied to refuse medical care to infants who survive abortion break my heart! He endorsed same sex marriage. His lack of leadership in the Middle East prove he is no friend to Israel. I cannot vote for him! I believe with all my heart that the fruits of his character are obvious; I believe he is a Muslim. I pray that the truth about Barack Obama will come out before the election. God will hold Obama voters accountable for supporting his policies as well. I pray He will have mercy on us all if the president is re-elected! If we as a country turn our back on Israel, God will turn His back on us. I believe we are already seeing His judgment since the 2008 election. I pray the truth about Barack Obama will come out prior to the election. Obviously, Mitt Romney needs to understand the truth about Jesus Christ and the true meaning of Christianity. Every contemporary president has sought the counsel of Dr. Billy Graham, all but one: Barack Obama. Perhaps if Mitt Romney is elected, he will turn to Dr. Graham for counsel and if anyone can reach a Mormon, he can! His son, Franklin Graham said, “Listen, we’re not voting for the ‘pastor-in-chief’ of the United States. We’re voting for the president. We’re looking for the person that is the most qualified, a person that shares common values, a person that loves the country, a person who can lead this nation out of the economic mess that we’ve gotten ourselves in, and that’s I think the main thing for most people, today.”
Made the mistake of voting early. Wish I had read this first. Sickened my stomach to read the Mormon belief about Jesus and Lucifer. I do not know which is worse, Obama or Mormonism. I do know, Americans are fighting to hold on to a freedom that is destroying us, because they have turned their back on God. True freedom is repentance and turning your life over to the Lord Jesus Christ.
I love the straight forwardness of this message.Its not about Republicans or Democrats.Its about the Morman Cult!!! The truth be known we dont have a good canidate for President. I dont care for Obama,but I will not vote to replace him with a Cult Leader.
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